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Build Your Own Steering Column Too?
February 3, 2012
8:41 pm
Buzzman72

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@isbcornbinder: I'm installing an entire AMC Pacer IFS clip with disc brakes on the '52.  So I'm not simply adding a rack to a straight axle.  In fact, the plan is to rebuild the entire front axle and suspension from the '52, and then swap lock, stock & barrel with the '51.  So I'm not "betting the farm" on home engineering.  On the '51, I'm ONLY converting the steering box to a '79-'85 Toyota pickup box…same basic mounting as the original Ross box, but it's "divorced" from the column by a joint that the IH doesn't have.  I'll have to have a machine shop make me a pitman arm compatible with the Toyota splines, but as long as I can mount and drive the pump, it won't be the piece of half-fast engineering you seem to think it's gonna be.[I saw a conversion on a Ford in which they bored out the center of the stock pitman arm and then cut the splined center of the Toyota pitman arm and welded them...but I'd prefer to have my pitman arm as one piece, for safety's sake.]

And I don't recommend trying to grind an L-R-S-series steering shaft down to a double-D; unlike later model trucks and other makes, the L-R-S shaft is HOLLOW, with relatively thin walls, and that's where the original horn wire runs.  I wouldn't even CONSIDER grinding that hollow shaft and weakening it further.

@ihcnut: In another post recently on the forum, someone determined that the single pulleys on the BG241 and the SV engines are the same part numbers.  It would then be logical that the double-sheave pulleys from the early '60's SV's would also fit the the SV.  So my thought is to use one groove to drive the alternator, as was done by the factory…and then use the second groove and a second belt to drive a power steering pump [once I figure out the mounting].

@granddadstruck: When I get mine out, I'd be more than willing to deal.

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February 3, 2012
9:24 pm
wildmanbill

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isb cornbinder, is this what you are talking about,

I tried the Unisteer rack, in the first photo you can see that there is no clearance between the frame and the spring for the left side bellows and end of the rack that extends when you make a right hand turn with the Unisteer. It would get smashed in-between the frame and spring on a bump and lock the steering, NOT safe. To mount it inboard enough to clear the spring interference, the steering shaft now has interference from the oil pan and exhaust. The Unisteer was designed for hair pin style front suspension, the company that makes this is 45 minutes from me and I had a lot of discussions with them. My set-up uses all parts made by Flaming River, except for the brackets and the tie-rod sleeves, which in the photos are my mock-up ones, I have since turned new ones on my lathe out of solid bar stock. Flaming River is another local company, 30 minutes away, that I like to try and keep my money local. I have used this manual rack steering for 4 years now with good results, I even tow with it to the Nationals. I know you weren't digging on me, but the description was so close. I would have loved to use the cross steer set-up but I could not get it to fit and work for me.

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February 9, 2012
4:19 pm
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isb cornbinder,I'm using a dana 44 in my K1.Do you think the dodge box you talked about will work on a k1 frame.I'm looking for a box now and know someone local who does alot of work on older dodge trucks and rams.Like to see pictures of the crossteer setup.

ace42
February 10, 2012
11:11 am
isb cornbinder

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I used a Dodge/Saginaw 4X4 power box on the original R120 steering. Now that the R120 is a 4X4, and cross steering, I found the Chevy van, 1990 worked for me. I will try to take and post a picture.

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