OldIHC

i have yet to read anything that says the canadian k 1 thru 5 had the option of a chrome grill are that it was even ever offered as an option that could be had and installed when the truck was ordered and built at the factory.

  nor has any one said it was are that they have a caindain made k 1 thru 5 with one  are that they have ever seen one with one until the post.

yet on the other hand the canadian made k 1 thru 5 did have a chrome windshield frame as a factory option

 but when it comes to the us made k 1 thru 5 they most definitely had a chrome grill option and i personally owned a 1942 k4 with the rae chrome grill option.

 yet the us made k/kb 1 thru 5 never had a chrome windshield frame as an option.

further more what i have found in my owen research is that the chrome grill option was a rae option and was only offered on the k 1 thru 5 series for 1941 and 1942  but not on the 46ks ks as k is 1941 to 1946. 

how ever the chrome grill option was so well excepted buy the generail public it  is what lead to ihc changing the k series from the k to kb in 1947.

so in 1947 ihc added thestainless to the grill on the k/kb 1 thru 5 to appeal to the generail public as to try and   increase  over all sales of the kb 1 thru 5 series which is 1947 to 1949 as we were just coming out of a war and the other makers had resigned there post war truck were ihc had not.

 so they needed all the draw they could get from the general public to sell there trucks.

next ihc chromed the in tire grill yet they just left the center part of the grill chromed and they painted in outer parts of the grill same body color as the rest of the truck.

with this said i wish the are truck pics here on the sight were working as in my members pics on here there  are 2 photos of the chrome grill from my 1942 k4.

it was garbage and unusable but it would let you see what i 1 looked like.

lastly luckly i have another photo of a 1941 k5 with the rae chrome grill option so you can compare it to what you have as well as others that would like to see what looks like they can.

Robert/KB48

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i am not doubting you one bit that it is canadian made.

 it is just that this is the first i have heard of a canadian made k 1 thru 5 with the rae chrome grill.

 as to the year it is titled at this is no big deal deal as far as i am considered and as to what i read on here the majory of the other members could care a less as well.

 next it could be a 1946 and some one just put an earlier 1941 are 1942 rae chrome grill in it as all the k 1 thru 5 grills are the same.

yet if you have the title it could be and mostly likely is that at some point in time a p.o. has either bought it with out a title lost the title are they bought it titled as a 1946.

 next allot of these older ihc trucks are mis titled as the wrong year due to the fact allot of them were farm trucks and never left the farm and there for they may have never bin licensed titled are registered.

 it could also be that your truck may have sit new on a dealers lot unsold until 1946.

 than the dealer would have titled it legal and correctly as a 1946 .

 reason being is back in the day all automotive dealers titled vechicles the year they sold it and not as the year it acuttaly was.

so say you bought a 1942 k1 in 1946 than the dealer would correctly and leagail title it as a 1946.

further more if you bought say a 1946 k1 in 1947 the dealer would than title it as a 1947.

 yet since 1947 is kb i am not sure is the title would say 1947 kb1 are if it would say 1947 k as the truck is a k model not a kb.

how ever it may not say k are kb as it varies from state to state as to what the title will say.

 as some states use the motor number and some use the frame number.

 my owen personal us made 48 kb1 is titled off the motor number so the title say 1948 international pickup and does not have the model which is a kb1.

 yet if they would have used  the frame number it would have had the model on the title which is kb1. 

so if you have clear title in you name and everything is correct and either motor number frame number are even possibly both match title and truck i personally would live it as is and do nothing are try to have the trucks year changed /re titled as a 1941/42.

reason being if you do try to get the year/titled changed you could run/open up a big old can of worms you want nothing to due with and in a worse case senior you may wind up never being able to get a title even though you already have one.

 i looked into getting my titled changed to the frame number since my truck is titled of motor not frame and i was told it could not be done nor will they because my truck was legally and originally titled of motor not frame.

lastly hope this helps and if you need more help just ask.

Robert/KB48

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almost forgot the running board extensions as that's what they call them as ihc never offered full length running boards for the k/kb series.

so with this said both the us and canadian made k/kb 1&2s with the 125 inch wheelbase and 7 1/2 box had the optional factory running board extensions.

 also the 130 inch wheel base  8 1/2 foot k/kb 3s us and canadian made also had the running board extensions offered as a factory option.

 how ever when it comes to the k/kb 1&3 with the 113 inch wheelbase and 6 1/2 foot bed which was only available on the k/kb1&3 i do not no for sure so i can not say if they offered the running board extensions for these trucks.

Robert/KB48

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D15H said:

Canadian made K series were assembled with mostly U.S. made sheet metal until late Dec. 1946 when tooling was installed at the Chatham plant. The chrome grill would have been made in the U.S,

Scott in B.C.

That is interesting, which supports my statement of parts crossing the border. So in my thoughts, a customer who wanted something offered by International(being 1 company with several plants) could have gotten ANY items he wanted for his truck, Dealer would have just put in the order and the "plant" would have acquired the parts where produced.

Elegantly simple, and Why there is absolutely no sure thing on any early International, except basic Frame, Cab.

Lloyd

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the statement ihc used only genuine ihc parts if flat out incorrect and total horse pucky.

 reason being is ihc as like the major 3 did not make all there owen parts and instead they had other manufacturers make parts for them.

 also ihc is  well know and it is noted that they would buy parts from like chevy and ford are who ever they could get the parts from at the best price.

further more it is very common and not unusual to find for example two different style heater motors used in the same year and model truck.

 reason being is ihc would buy parts were they could get the best price weather it be ford chevy dodge are some one else.

 also it is common to find gm ford as well as other makers parts with the the makers part number instead of an ihc part number on ihc vechicles as again ihc did not make all there owen parts and instead they bought from who ever they could get the best price from.

 example 2.

 say they were using lights from say groat and in the middle of production they ran out.

 they than would look to see who they could get the best price from and say it was ford verse groat they than would buy from ford.

best examplei have and most definitely prove ihc did not use all there owen parts.

here it is.

i helped a friend of mine  sell parts from what i know is a kb 1 are 2 pickup he bought as parts.

yet i can not say for sure as to weather it is a kb 1 are 2 as he did not get the in tire frame with the truck and the cab data tag was gone as well.

 with this said the truck came with a box i have never seen personally even though i have seen 2 other like it on ebay and both were on latter model kb2 pickups.

the bed is 100% factory and not homemade and you can clearly tell it is with out a doubt due to the way it is construced and welded together with factory spot welds. 

 how ever it is not a Knox are the more commonly know factory ihc bed more commonly referred to as the ribbed side box

instead the box is made up of what apear to be 1948 to 1955 chevy box sides as there identical to this year range chevy/gmc box sides.

how ever only the box sides are chevy as the rest of the bed consists of the factory ihc style box steel floor and all the cross members as well as the factory ihc headstall/front panel and the highly noticeable unic front angel irion type mount that is bolted to the front of the box with several bolts.

 it also had factory k/kb pickup fenders and you can tell the bed sides were factory punched for the k/kb pickup rear box fenders and that it was never punched for anything but the k/kb pickup fenders.

 no before you even ask the side were not nor have they ever had any other fender pattern bolt holes drilled and are welded up.

 on to the tailgate it to is not of the factory k/kb style as it is short in height and a bit wider as well as it is flat and does not have the 3 embossed ribs that match the ribs on the sides of the box on a factory k/kb bed.

the tailgate instead looks identical to the 1948 to 1955 chevy/gmc tailgate with the exception it is not stamped with the word chevorlet are gmc like it would be if it were intended to be used on the afore mentioned years for chevy/gmc picks.

no and it is not a newer after market reproduction tailgate for the afore mentioned years of chevy/gmc pickups even though they do make a new reproduction tailgate that is blank for afore mentioned years of chevy/gmc pickups.

onto the way the tailgate mounts and latches to the box.

 it uses the factory ihc box style chain and has the factory ihc style chain brackets riveted to the stake pocket identical to the factory ihc box.

how ever it does not have the eye type brackets riveted into the ends of the top tube of the tailgate like the factory ihc box.

 instead it has the latches very similar if not the same as used on the knox style tailgate factory welded to the side of the tailgate and it locks closed with the chains basically identical to the way the knox box tailgate does.

 as for the lower tailgate hinges/pivots it does not use the factory ihc box pivots/hinges instead it uses the 1948 to 1955 chevy/gmc type hinge which slide into the lower tube of the tailgate and bolt to the face of the stake pocket with 2 bolts pre side.

 i have post pics of this box here on the sight in the past and the topic i started about this box is still here on the sight.

 yet for some reason the pics have bin deleted.

 i would post them again and have tired but i no longer have them as i lost them when my other computer crashed and burned.

 i also contacted Irish mike as he was the person that posted them for me original how ever he has the same issue as me which is the computer the pics were on crashed and burned and he has not yet bin able to get his pics back.

i have also bin trying to get new pic from member dgodat you is the one that still has the box in question but i have not bin able to get in touch with him.

again this is a factory bed and not something i am making up and to date i have seen like 3 more besides the 1 dgodat has and talked to 2 other people that have the same bed.

 further more i know for a fact ihc did not use all there owen parts and instead they bought parts from who ever they could get the best deal from and that it is common and not unusual to find 2 are more trucks of the same and model with different parts than one another.

 lastly if others feel differently and want to say i am wrong so be it as i do not care because i know what is right and that's all that matters to me as i do not need to please every one.

Robert/KB48

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D15H said:

KB48 said

" also all the old timers as well as the parts stores use to say when you have an international bring the part with you because ihc was know for using diferant parts on the same model and year trucks."

IHC said " only use Genuine International parts, and tell us the chassis number!"

Scott in B.C.

All Manufacturers would say to "use only Genuine ****** Parts. The reason for telling them the Chassis number was so they could either look in their archives or request a "build" sheet on that particular vehicle, That is the BIBLE of that vehicle.  My Grandfather ordered his IH, he was told here are the BASIC specs for that vehicle. What he wanted on his truck, some were listed "upgrades" others were not listed, When his truck came to the Dealer, he went to see it, many of the items he wanted, that were not Listed "upgrades" were on the truck.  SHIPPED from the Factory. The rest of the items he wanted were local purchase an installed by Dealer and himself.

Lloyd

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