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My new R180

PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:09 pm
by wndsofchng06
Wish we still had the old data so I could see my L160 thread from a few years back. Anyhow, I struck and deal and my R180 dump truck will be home next week! :t3909:
I will be on the lookout for a door and fender, but will also want to be doing tires. I've never had a truck with these spoke style wheels. My old truck had the budd wheels (still have the spare outside). Are these spoke wheels split death rims? I sure hope not. Expect me to be posting a lot. I'm like a kid at Christmas right now... been looking for the right truck to get back in and here I go.
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Re: My new R180

PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:32 pm
by cornbinder89
No, Spoke wheels CANNOT have the FIrestone RH 5 deg wheel, which is the one known as "widowmaker".
Spoke wheels take a little more care to get them on straight, but once you learn how to do it, they are much easier to service with just hand tools.
The lugs are tightened to a much lower torque value than disk wheels are, so a simple hand lug wrench is all that is needed. Torque is dependent on the stud size but never more than 240 ft/lbs. (compared to 550 ft/lbs for "Budd" type wheels)
The wheels may have a simple split lock-ring or may be the Goodyear solid ring, split rim type.

Re: My new R180

PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:40 pm
by wndsofchng06
cornbinder89 wrote:No, Spoke wheels CANNOT have the FIrestone RH 5 deg wheel, which is the one known as "widowmaker".
Spoke wheels take a little more care to get them on straight, but once you learn how to do it, they are much easier to service with just hand tools.
The lugs are tightened to a much lower torque value than disk wheels are, so a simple hand lug wrench is all that is needed. Torque is dependent on the stud size but never more than 240 ft/lbs. (compared to 550 ft/lbs for "Budd" type wheels)
The wheels may have a simple split lock-ring or may be the Goodyear solid ring, split rim type.

Ah interesting. The lock rings can be dangerous too, no?

Re: My new R180

PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:52 pm
by cornbinder89
Anything with as much stored energy as a truck tire must be treated with respect. (If you doubt how much stored energy is in tire, pump one up with a bicycle pump). So yeah it can kill you if mishandled, but with a little knowledge of what to do and what to look for, there is no reason not to use them.
I drive all over from Iowa to the west coast on lock-ring rims, hauling up to 52K on a flatbed.

Re: My new R180

PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:57 pm
by wndsofchng06
cornbinder89 wrote:Anything with as much stored energy as a truck tire must be treated with respect. (If you doubt how much stored energy is in tire, pump one up with a bicycle pump). So yeah it can kill you if mishandled, but with a little knowledge of what to do and what to look for, there is no reason not to use them.
I drive all over from Iowa to the west coast on lock-ring rims, hauling up to 52K on a flatbed.
yeah I don't doubt the stored energy that's in there just trying to figure out if I'll be able to find a shop willing to do the tires

Re: My new R180

PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:01 pm
by cornbinder89
Most Truck tire shops (Not Love's truck stops or the like), Goodyear Commercial, GCR, LesShawb and the like, should handle them.

Re: My new R180

PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:05 pm
by wndsofchng06
cornbinder89 wrote:Most Truck tire shops (Not Love's truck stops or the like), Goodyear Commercial, GCR, LesShawb and the like, should handle them.

Awesome!

Re: My new R180

PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:10 pm
by cornbinder89
Many, if not most off-road equipment use lock-ring wheels, they are still the best why to handle really large heavy tires. Last I looked, you could still buy 20" lock ring wheels brand new.

Re: My new R180

PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:25 pm
by nikkinutshop
First, where are located? (approximately)
I know where some good fenders and doors are located, in Western Canada.
Are the door windows the tall or shorter style? Both door styles fit, but you may want them to match.
What year is the truck?

Re: My new R180

PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:36 pm
by wndsofchng06
nikkinutshop wrote:First, where are located? (approximately)
I know where some good fenders and doors are located, in Western Canada.
Are the door windows the tall or shorter style? Both door styles fit, but you may want them to match.
What year is the truck?

Its a 1953. Not sure which windows. I'm in Durham, NC. Shipping from far Canada might be prohibitive. But there are some LTL carriers that are reasonable I just sent a 750 lb V8 with a 350 lb cast iron transmission all the way to Miami for $400