Borg Warner


IHC in the early to mid-fifties.

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Post Sun Apr 27, 2014 6:20 pm

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I met a man with a 1950 Willys Jeepster today and he originally had the same transmission as my truck a T6 and he said if I looked around I could find a T6 with OD built in (he put on in the Willys) would a T19 from a Scout II fit? or a 5 speed from a WWII GM 10 wheeler even? just asking out of curiosity i find it all interesting
1952 L-112 Long Bed BD220 3 speed, 4x4.
1962 Dodge Dart 330, 392 Hemi, T56 6 speed manual.
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Post Sun Apr 27, 2014 6:40 pm

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None of those will fit,mounting to the SD/BD is "unique" and very different than later IH's. GM used different input shafts sizes for a start so that's...
The Jeep may have the same model trans. but the case is very likely different as would be the input shaft.
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Post Sun Apr 27, 2014 7:20 pm

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So even the T98 that was optional on these trucks if it came off a 1960 Ford 223 it wouldnt work either?
1952 L-112 Long Bed BD220 3 speed, 4x4.
1962 Dodge Dart 330, 392 Hemi, T56 6 speed manual.
1986 GMC K1500 Jimmy, 396 V8, 700R4, 208C, 4x4.

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Post Sun Apr 27, 2014 7:52 pm

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Ethan wrote:So even the T98 that was optional on these trucks if it came off a 1960 Ford 223 it wouldnt work either?

I do not know the Official answer to your Question, but, there are a couple of things to consider. Does the "transmission unbolt from the bell housing? If it does, how many splines does it have? How long is the Input shaft? What is the Diameter of the input shaft?
My thoughts, and I am not a real smart fellow, is that if it has the correct length, diameter, and splines and bolts up to your bell housing, it should work. But if any of the above mentioned items do NOT match up, then probably not. The only thing that I think might be "relatively" easy to adapt would be if the input shaft is a little to long, you might be able to make an adapter, or possible one to change up the way the "transmission" bolts up to the bell.
Like I said, I am not a real smart person when it comes to these things, but these are my uneducated thoughts.

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Post Mon Apr 28, 2014 8:56 am

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The guy selling it (no bell housing) answered a couple of those questions " Mounting face of transmission to end of input shaft- 7 inches Mounting face of transmission to end of splines- 6 inches Number of splines- 10 Pilot bushing length- 1 inch" i get a little lost after the 7 inches part of it
1952 L-112 Long Bed BD220 3 speed, 4x4.
1962 Dodge Dart 330, 392 Hemi, T56 6 speed manual.
1986 GMC K1500 Jimmy, 396 V8, 700R4, 208C, 4x4.

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Post Mon Apr 28, 2014 10:28 am

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Overall length of input shaft is 7", also equal to 6" to end of splines plus 1" for pilot bushing in the flywheel. Splines on the shaft must match the splines in the center of the clutch pressure plate in both number and size, in your case, 10 splines. You didn't mention diameter of the input shaft, but that has to match up too.


Edit: not pressure plate. Should have said clutch disc.

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Post Mon Apr 28, 2014 3:20 pm

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The total length from the trans case, not the throw out bearing sleeve is 10-1/4 inches with a 1-1/4" spline, get a T-19 fully synchronized out of a late 70s scout 2WD or light line truck, you may have to change the sleeve, that's what I did, any IH light line 50s T-98 will bolt right in too.

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Post Mon Apr 28, 2014 5:14 pm

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kevin wrote: get a T-19 fully synchronized out of a late 70s scout 2WD any IH light line 50s T-98 will bolt right in too.

so the T19 I metioned earlier I was looking at on Ebay from a Scout II would work?
1952 L-112 Long Bed BD220 3 speed, 4x4.
1962 Dodge Dart 330, 392 Hemi, T56 6 speed manual.
1986 GMC K1500 Jimmy, 396 V8, 700R4, 208C, 4x4.

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Post Mon Apr 28, 2014 5:20 pm

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Like this one for instance? from a 70s IH 3/4 ton http://www.ebay.com/itm/IH-INTERNATIONA ... 1e64b14477
1952 L-112 Long Bed BD220 3 speed, 4x4.
1962 Dodge Dart 330, 392 Hemi, T56 6 speed manual.
1986 GMC K1500 Jimmy, 396 V8, 700R4, 208C, 4x4.
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Post Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:46 pm

Re: Borg Warner

Keven said:
you may have to change the sleeve, that's what I did,


I put a T-98 in a KB and had to turn down the diameter of the front sleeve 1/8" where it bolts up to front of transmission case. slipped right in after that.

should be do-able though.
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