Drum Brakes for my '53


IHC in the early to mid-fifties.

User avatar

Yard Art
Yard Art

Posts: 78

Joined: Wed Dec 18, 2013 11:37 am

Location: Albuquerque

Post Fri Mar 07, 2014 3:14 pm

Drum Brakes for my '53

Been searching :m03104: for new front drums. This company has them on eBay, but they don't know dimensions. Help please? :t0117:
My dimensions are 5" on 4 3/4" bolt pattern. OD 12.5" ID 12. 2 1/8-2 1/4 THICK/WIDE.
Transferred from another thread by Admin:
Posted Fri Mar 07, 2014 11:43 am by DeeJayNOLA
Sooooo what are the dimensions of the 5 lug drum brakes on the 1953 international Travel All. I can't find this size anywhere. My suspension shop discovered that mine had been pulled off but not attached back together correctly. So now they're suggesting I replace them. However, they don't do fabs so I can't have them go ahead and switch me over to discs. :t0116:
Great days begin with fantastic mornings!

Site Admin
Site Admin

Posts: 4938

Joined: Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:10 am

Location: Nampa, Idaho

Post Fri Mar 07, 2014 4:23 pm

Re: Drum Brakes for my '53

Something like this: http://www.oldinternationaltrucks.ca/products/?CatID=92 Go to this page then down to the L,R,S area and click there, They have drums.
They are in Canada. Keep in mind that the studs are swedged into the front hub and drum.

Golden Jubilee
Golden Jubilee

Posts: 1806

Joined: Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:26 pm

Location: Dinuba, central CA

Post Fri Mar 07, 2014 4:41 pm

Re: Drum Brakes for my '53

Perhaps 5 on 4.5" ?. 4.75" sounds like a GM pattern?
1933 IHC Bus. Cpe
1933 IHC B-3 f
1935 C-1 IHC pickup
2 x 1936 IHC C-30 Fbs
3 x 1938 IHC D-2 Pickups
1938 IHC D-30 fb
1941 IHC K-1
2 x 1947 IHC KB-1 Pickups
2x 1953 IHC R pickups
User avatar

Golden Jubilee
Golden Jubilee

Posts: 741

Joined: Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:58 am

Location: Central IL

Post Fri Mar 07, 2014 4:42 pm

Re: Drum Brakes for my '53

Waiting for water to boil is the worst thing ever isn't it?

If you haven't already, cruise over to this website :
http://www.hansenwebdesign.com/truck/facts.html

download the parts and repair manuals from the right side of the page. I think you'll find some very useful info on what size your brakes should be. That's not saying that someone didn't swap something else onto the truck. You can try to cross the part #s from the manual on google or maybe Napa or Orielly or something like that. You may find info to piece the puzzle together with.
'55 IH R-122- BG265 w/TBI fuel injection
'64 Porsche 356 C
'68 and '73 BMW 2002s
‘14 VW Passat SE TSI
3 Vintage Sears garden tractors ('66-'74)
User avatar

Golden Jubilee
Golden Jubilee

Posts: 4930

Joined: Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:47 am

Location: Bothell, Washington

Post Fri Mar 07, 2014 6:09 pm

Re: Drum Brakes for my '53

the Travelall and pickup have the exact same running gear, so any info and/or parts you find for pick up will work, 5 lug pickup drum is same 5 lug travelall drum,

IF, IF, I say IF you still have your factory installed front axle, if you have something else under your truck,,,,,the time for a little detective work.


only difference would be if truck has 11 inch drums instead, MOST early 50s had 12 inch, they started putting in 11 inch in later 50s but not sure of the exact model or year.
Gentle Men! you can't fight in here! This is the war room!
User avatar

Golden Jubilee
Golden Jubilee

Posts: 2048

Joined: Thu Jan 24, 2013 8:49 pm

Post Fri Mar 07, 2014 6:12 pm

Re: Drum Brakes for my '53

A '53 what??? Many,many brake parts are model specific.

If you Google any IH parts numbers do not use spaces like they are in the book.
Example
97 612 R1 Drum,is how pn's appear in the book and will get little if any search results.
97612R1 Drum, is much more likely to get results.
12 yrs.exp. in IH dealer parts dept.
Never argue with a fool...
If you don't have anything nice to say...say nothing.
If you don't learn something new everyday...you weren't paying attention.
THINK! Be sure brain is connected before mouth is in gear.
User avatar

Golden Jubilee
Golden Jubilee

Posts: 759

Joined: Thu Nov 29, 2012 6:44 pm

Location: New Salisbury, IN USA

Post Fri Mar 07, 2014 8:26 pm

Re: Drum Brakes for my '53

If your drums are a 5-on-4.75" lug pattern, they're NOT original to a '53 International.

ANY '53 International.

The R-110 lug pattern was 5-on-4-1/2".

Travelalls used the same as the other R-110's.

5-on-4.75" is a GM pattern...NOT International.

ORIGINAL drums should Raybestos number 2316...and they're awfully hard to find these days. And the shoes to fit are Raybestos number 30, possibly with "PG" attached to that number....just like I posted on the other thread about this vehicle.
My posts contain my own opinions...your mileage may vary, void where prohibited, objects in the mirror may be closer than they appear, and alcohol may intensify any side effects.

Golden Jubilee
Golden Jubilee

Posts: 5209

Joined: Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:28 pm

Location: Lyman, IA

Post Fri Mar 07, 2014 9:14 pm

Re: Drum Brakes for my '53

with a 5 lug wheel it is likely that the O/P doesn't now how to measure bolt circle. You DO NOT measure stud to stud.

Yard Art
Yard Art

Posts: 72

Joined: Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:42 pm

Post Fri Mar 07, 2014 9:22 pm

Re: Drum Brakes for my '53

If you have the original axle and brakes, looks like Rock Auto has your drums and all the rest of the brake hardware.
MW

Site Admin
Site Admin

Posts: 4938

Joined: Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:10 am

Location: Nampa, Idaho

Post Sat Mar 08, 2014 6:07 am

Re: Drum Brakes for my '53

here is a thread that talks about measuring the bolt circle: viewtopic.php?f=30&t=1020&p=5938&hilit=bolt+circle#p5938
Next

Return to L, R and S

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 24 guests

Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
Designed by ST Software for PTF.