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Howdy From Texas

PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 11:51 pm
by Samalexander33
Howdy!
My name is Sam Alexander and I live near Austin, Tx. I recently purchased what I think is a 1924 international model S. The title is still in the previous owners safety deposit box and I'm not sure where I can find the serial, model and vin numbers on the engine. I am attaching a few pictures and any information would be a huge help.

Sam
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1924 international exterior

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Interior

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Engine

Re: Howdy From Texas

PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 12:22 am
by lbesq
going to move you over to the fellows in the Pre40's section. Nice looking truck.

Re: Howdy From Texas

PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 3:59 am
by slospeed
Sam

Great to see you found the oldihc site as well, I will copy the picture of your truck from here and put it in the VIHTR Register.

Looking at your photos it looks like a model S truck can you check the wheelbase it should be 124", frame should be 5" deep with 3 cross members.

Can you put up a picture of the other side of the engine for us please.

The chassis number can be found Drivers side on the side of the chassis about half way between the front and front axle its normally between the rivets and runs vertical.

Trevor

Re: Howdy From Texas

PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 8:10 am
by jim_g
Thats a great looking truck. That motor looks like my Dodge with a North East silent starter. Jim

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Re: Howdy From Texas

PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 8:33 am
by slospeed
Jim

I think you might be spot on with the engine did notice the bottom radiator hose went across the front and also the top hose had been modified, was going to wait until the pictures from the other side to confirm.

Wonder if they used the original gearbox or if they installed the dodge one as well, maybe some pictures of the gearbox might help to identify.

Trevor

Re: Howdy From Texas

PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:07 am
by Samalexander33
You hit the nail on the head. It has a 5" frame, the serial was exactly where you said it would be and has a 124" wheel base.

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Serial Stamp


Serial # ST32747C
I'm not sure how the serial reads. Is this Model S-32, Serial 747?

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Passenger Side Of Engine


I was told by the previous owner that this truck has not run in over 65 years. The oil has been changed every ten years. The engine is free and It has compression.

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Dash Guages


After reading some history on these trucks. The cabs were not constructed by international but by third party buggy shops. Would this be the reason the gauges are all different or do you think the gauges were installed at a later date?

Re: Howdy From Texas

PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 11:22 am
by Samalexander33
It sounds like this isn't the original engine. Or did international use dodge engines?

Re: Howdy From Texas

PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 5:12 pm
by slospeed
Sam

It certainly has had an engine swap done some time during its life. Another thing that looks out of place is the pedals they normally have the wording brake & clutch on them and are not small round ones.

On the passenger side of the cowl you can see were the id tag was it should have looked like these.

Trevor

Re: Howdy From Texas

PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:42 pm
by Samalexander33
[quote="jim_g"]Thats a great looking truck. That motor looks like my Dodge with a North East silent starter. Jim


If you had to guess what range of years did dodge use that engine? Also I need some advise please. Would you restore this truck as is or would you only restore it with the correct engine?

Sam

Re: Howdy From Texas

PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 6:21 am
by jim_g
Sam
If it was my truck I would not restore it. When I was young I would take things all apart and try to repair everything. The first car I started on I never did get it all back together. Now my advice would be to get it running and find out what it needs to make it mechanically dependable, reliable and safe. I would keep the Dodge engine and keep the outside of the truck just as it is now. Maybe find some kind of a truck bed to put on the back. What you have right now a good sound truck with lots of patina called a survivor. It can go to car shows, parades etc. just as it is.
The Dodge engine you have was built between 1920 and 1924. It will be a 12 volt system. Go by the battery terminals to see if its neg or pos ground. 1920-1922 were 12v neg ground. 1923-1924 was 12v pos ground. The transmission pattern is upside down (Dodge). Reverse is left rear. First is left front. Second is r.r. Third is right front.

Get parts and manual here: http://www.myersearlydodge.com/catalog.htm

Some forum info: http://forums.aaca.org/f143/1920-dodge- ... 15574.html
Jim