Is This a Red Baby? LOL

Well it's a checkerboard baby now. Is this IHC?

My first thought was that it looked to be a rattle T Ford.
Saved photo so I could enlarge it, and while extremely pixilated, it does indeed have the Ford characteristic transverse front spring. So definitely not IH.

Please keep in mind that the "Red Baby" trucks were not a model of IH truck.
They were a special edition of the Speed Truck only available to IH dealers to use as service trucks!
Bill

Bill,
That statement is very interesting.
How can it be made by IHC but not be an IHC model?
Please explain, this is fascinating.
How many of these Red Babies are left do you think vs production?

I found this awhile ago...

Number-series and S-series

In mid-1921 International replaced the "letter-series" with a revised "number-series" of "slope-nose" trucks that eventually extended from the 1-ton Model 21 to the 5-ton Model 101. At the same time International introduced the conventional radiator-in-front ¾-ton Model S "speed-truck", with pneumatic tires and a high for-the-day top speed of 25-30 mph. Some of the S models, painted red and with McCormick-Deering logos, were used by International-Harvester dealers as sales and service vehicles. These special trucks acquired the nickname "Red Baby" and are popular with collectors. The Model S was the basis for a series of trucks that was built through 1930 and ran from the ¾-ton Special Delivery to the 2-ton SF-46 6-cylinder model, powered by Waukesha and Lycoming engines. The iconic Six-Speed Special, added to the series in 1928, was one of the first trucks to be fitted with a 2-speed rear axle, if not the first.

From here;
http://tractors.wikia.com/wiki/International_Trucks

Thanks, Scott!
I think the Red Baby has BECOME a de facto model, then?
Whether it was intended or not?
I think every old truck and especially IHC guy would want one.

The Red Baby trucks were Speed Trucks. That is the model of truck of truck that they were.
There were approximately 30,000 Speed Trucks built from 1921- early 1927. The normal paint scheme was a red chassis with black cab, hood and fenders.
However only a very few of the dealer only, express body, all red, "Red Baby" trucks were built. If you can document the number of IH dealer in the US in the 20s that should give you an approximation of how many TRUE Red Baby trucks were built.
I only know of one true documented Red Baby truck. If I recall correctly it was featured sometime back in Harvester Highlights.
There was another that was claimed to be a Red Baby, sold on ebay, from Nebraska as I recall. It had a farm grain box bed which would have been of no use to a farm equipment dealer. It also did not have the express body, full length running boards and rear fenders that a Red Baby would have had. It did have the remains of a large letter C on the door, but I could make out nothing of an IH inside of the C. In my opinion from what I could see the trucks original owner could have as easily have been the Coldwater Co-op, Coldwater Nebraska.
I could be a 100% wrong on the second truck, but from the photo evidence I was convinced it was not a true Red Baby and did not bid on it.
Bill

So that means really rare.
A challenge.

Googled Red Baby found some images but only one currently restored.
Here are some pics.

smog guy

? Is the restored one a true red baby.

Have a close look at the height of the bed. the sides are a lot higher than the 2 other pictures.

So I would think at least that has been replaced over the years.

Also just because you cant Google it or find it on Hamb doesn't mean it not around. Just during this last week have spoken to a gentleman who is not into computers at all but sounds like he has a very nice collection of unrestored early internationals. So networking the good old fashioned way is sometimes better.

Trevor

Trevor,
Gold is where you find it, yes.
You'd think there would be more early IHC here in dry Central CA. ???
There is an IHC High wheeler near here in Exeter, CA...
I think there is a Red Baby in my future.
I prefer a local truck with known history.
Did you confirm the other Red Baby in today's post??
Thanks for your expertise.
Don