1937 D-35 questions


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Golden Jubilee
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Post Thu Jul 25, 2013 6:34 pm

1937 D-35 questions

I just picked up a 37 D-30. It had not run in a few years but I got it running by pouring gas into the carb. I cannot get fuel to the carb. It looks like it has a mechanical fuel pump with sediment bowl. Does anyone know if this needs to be primed? I realize that it is possible that it has a bad diaphram but was hoping not. Also I have been scouring the net to try and find a good source for used parts but not alot of luck after many phone calls. Any recommendations? Not sure if it is against forum rules to ask about specific parts but the primamy thing I am looking for at the moment is a passenger window or at a minimum the lower window frame. If you have one or know who might please let me know.

Golden Jubilee
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Post Thu Jul 25, 2013 6:54 pm

Re: 1937 D-30 questions

Hi, I've owned two or three D-30s
The door glass is just flat safety glass my local glass co cut one for me.
Lower frame? Do you mean the bottom piece under the door glass that bolts to wdo reg?
If there's gas in the tank and everything's OK otherwise putting gas in carb is all the priming you need to do. After the second or third try of putting gas in carb and no help you've probably have fuel supply problems.
The gas tank is still under the seat?
Can you shine a bright light into the tank for a quick idea of tank condition (rusty, clean, mucky, whatever).
Any rubber or metal line between the pump and tank with even a pinhole or crack in it will pump air not gas.
Personally I've given up on mechanical pumps I retrofit a high quality low press electric pump close to the gas tank.
However, I understand the need to look original.
The electric pump quickly pressurizes the fuel system so cranking is kept to a minimum.
This modern gas often contains ethanol which deteriorates fuel hoses sometimes in a year or less.
You can probably figure on having to replace at least all rubber fuel lines and perhaps metal lines as well.
After checking fuel tank condition you can remove fuel line from carb temporarily and see if fuel is present during cranking. I suspect no.
A fire extinguisher is good to have when checking for gas near the ignition system.
Good luck, please send pics, and tell us what happens next.
Don
1933 IHC Bus. Cpe
1933 IHC B-3 f
1935 C-1 IHC pickup
2 x 1936 IHC C-30 Fbs
3 x 1938 IHC D-2 Pickups
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1941 IHC K-1
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2x 1953 IHC R pickups

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Post Thu Jul 25, 2013 7:34 pm

Re: 1937 D-30 questions

Don,
Thanks for the response. I talked with a local glass shop and they can cut me a window without any problem but I need the rail that goes on the bottom of the glass as it is missing. I am wondering how universal thos are in the IH trucks?

I tried getting it running in a rush so have not done alot of isolation yet. I need to check for obstructions in the tank and lines. I am familiar with this stuff as I have 9 Farmall's. The tank is still inder the passenger seat. I could not find the filler and it cracked me up when I found it inside the cab.

I am also looking for some other misc parts that I can track down later but one thing is that one rear wheel has a crack so I would like to get a replacement for that although it has probably been cracked for 50 years as it looks like it was painted that way. I am also looking to get new tires and I am sure they will give me grief over that. It looks like the original tire size is shown online as 30 x 5 TT? Not sure what this means but found a reference that this equates to a 600x20. Is that true? I think it has 800x20's now but they look big.

I have a attached a single picture for now and I will try and post more later.

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Post Thu Jul 25, 2013 7:37 pm

Re: 1937 D-30 questions

Looks like all of the pictures I have are around 1MB so I will need to try and get some smaller files and try again.

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Post Thu Jul 25, 2013 7:57 pm

Re: 1937 D-30 questions

If you work on tractors then you have this stuff down.
I think D series only on the window piece. And maybe two styles at that.
Are you looking for driver's or pass side?
I'm fresh out of driver's side. I might have pass side.
A picture would be great to make sure.
About 15 years ago I put '68 1 ton axles under my other D-30 and of course I kept the old axles.
Until price of metal went up and away they went!
I don't think I have D-30 wheels anymore. However I will check...
Cast spokes, right? Your truck doesn't have Budd wheel does it?
I can't imagine the spokes cracking...
I have other D-30 parts.
1933 IHC Bus. Cpe
1933 IHC B-3 f
1935 C-1 IHC pickup
2 x 1936 IHC C-30 Fbs
3 x 1938 IHC D-2 Pickups
1938 IHC D-30 fb
1941 IHC K-1
2 x 1947 IHC KB-1 Pickups
2x 1953 IHC R pickups

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Post Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:58 pm

Re: 1937 D-30 questions

So after cleaning the carb filter/screen and running with that open the fuel pumpo seemed to prime and truck runs good. Unfortunately after running 10 minutes or so something fell off in fron of the fan and caused some damage. It looks like someone siliconed this balancer on the front of the crank pulley. I am not sure if is supposed to be there or not.

So Here are the picture of the drivers side window. I need a passenger side. Also I took a picture of the truck for you to see. Also looking for some other misc parts like piper motor cover and some fllor pans if you had some in decent shape.

It looks like the wheels are not cracked as they are all this way. Just a real rugged seem on them around the valve stem.

Any help appreciated on parts and advice on the balencer part. I do not have a parts breakdown and it does not seem obvious that it would bolt on.
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Post Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:09 pm

Re: 1937 D-30 questions

I have a core D-30 engine out on the ground I'll look at the front pulley.
Did it punch a hole in the rad??? I hope not. IHC rads are wonderful in my opinion.
You didn't say this was a "nice" truck. I usually work on well worn versions.
I have a funny story on the wdo/reg/ channel piece. Both my driver's side were shot by a gun and a slug was in one. I needed one for my D-2. Oh well.
I think the pass side is OK.
It sounds like you are SO far ahead of the game if your truck runs AND looks good.
I'll let you know tomorrow on the pulley.
1933 IHC Bus. Cpe
1933 IHC B-3 f
1935 C-1 IHC pickup
2 x 1936 IHC C-30 Fbs
3 x 1938 IHC D-2 Pickups
1938 IHC D-30 fb
1941 IHC K-1
2 x 1947 IHC KB-1 Pickups
2x 1953 IHC R pickups

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Post Fri Jul 26, 2013 10:19 am

Re: 1937 D-30 questions

It did get the rad but it does not look like the first time.it should be able to be fixed. I would like to fix the pulley and balancer correctly. I am not sure if it is even supposed tk have the balancer. It sounds like you could also have a window/frame. I would be interested in that and maybe a few more misc parts.

As far as the trick goes it is in pretty good shape. Not crazy about the bed it has and woild like to build a nice all wood bed. I think that would look the best anyway.

Do you know what the correct tire size should be for this truck?

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Post Fri Jul 26, 2013 10:40 am

Re: 1937 D-30 questions

I usually buy the skinniest 20" truck tires I can find so the rear tires don't rub. The other designation like 36 x whatever on your tires I think is a high pressure tire, like 90 psi. I don't like these on old split rims!
Other folks on this site know a lot more about this. Just ask in a single post.
So usually I end up with 700 or 750 X 20s. 8.25 X 20 can be used in a pinch but they're too big.
Other folks here can tell you what factory size was, maybe even 6.50x 20.
Forgot to ask, what engine is in your truck? Should be a HD233 but often got swapped for GRD.
Still flat six?
D-35 had OHV 6 much longer and taller.
Don
1933 IHC Bus. Cpe
1933 IHC B-3 f
1935 C-1 IHC pickup
2 x 1936 IHC C-30 Fbs
3 x 1938 IHC D-2 Pickups
1938 IHC D-30 fb
1941 IHC K-1
2 x 1947 IHC KB-1 Pickups
2x 1953 IHC R pickups
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Post Fri Jul 26, 2013 4:19 pm

Re: 1937 D-30 questions

You might check with this guy, he did a wonderful job restoring the harmonic balancer on my SV345.
David Langsather, Dale Manufacturing; 3425 Fairhaven Avenue N.E., Salem, OR
97301 (503) 364-8685 dalemfg@juno.com http://www.dalemfg.com
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