Modern Frame swap


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Post Tue Apr 08, 2014 10:44 pm

Modern Frame swap

I am probably about to get blasted for this post, but does anyone have experience or a recommendation on a modern frame swap I could use for my '39 D2? My existing frame is in great shape, I don't plan to get rid of the frame, rather save it for the future. I will be running Ford drivetrain and engine, because its what I know and have easy access to. I am looking at either Ranger or Explorer frames, and their are a million or so posts about this online, but no measurements, and no followups from the people who say they have done them. I plan on using this truck simply for parts runs, parades and cruising, no wild motor combinations or turbos, just a mild 302 and a 4 speed :m03104: . Has anyone done a similar swap that they could point me in the right direction?

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Post Tue Apr 08, 2014 11:17 pm

Re: Modern Frame swap

Yeah. It's kinda a sore spot.
I put my D-2 on 2000 Nissan Frontier chassis and running gear. Fit was above average.
I only have this dark picture of the swap.
I suspect Ranger, S-10 work OK.
I ended up with a really driveable, reliable, great gas mileage yet stylish old truck. One side benefit is that these frame swaps often lower the truck as well.
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1933 IHC Bus. Cpe
1933 IHC B-3 f
1935 C-1 IHC pickup
2 x 1936 IHC C-30 Fbs
3 x 1938 IHC D-2 Pickups
1938 IHC D-30 fb
1941 IHC K-1
2 x 1947 IHC KB-1 Pickups
2x 1953 IHC R pickups

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Post Tue Apr 08, 2014 11:24 pm

Re: Modern Frame swap

Here's a '41 Dodge PU I put on ''88 Mazda PU.
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1933 IHC Bus. Cpe
1933 IHC B-3 f
1935 C-1 IHC pickup
2 x 1936 IHC C-30 Fbs
3 x 1938 IHC D-2 Pickups
1938 IHC D-30 fb
1941 IHC K-1
2 x 1947 IHC KB-1 Pickups
2x 1953 IHC R pickups

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Post Wed Apr 09, 2014 10:50 pm

Re: Modern Frame swap

Those both look great! Was there a lot of fan work for both or were they fairly straight forward? I expect to move mounts, and have to make some things work, just looking for an affordable way to get it on the road again.

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Post Sat Apr 12, 2014 1:45 pm

Re: Modern Frame swap

I'm completing as we speak my third "Japanese Rod". It's a '39 GMC pickup on '88 Nissan Hardbody.
The swap can be completed in a matter of a few months as compared to years on a basic hot rod build.
There are some major concepts to keep in mind.
One is that modern/Japanese stuff has all engine components stuff "smashed" up against the radiator whereas the vintage stuff is more leisurely spread out along the frame.
That is why I move engine back about 8" on these builds.
You don't necessarily have to do that. But be ready to run out of room up front for a cooling fan or an a/c condensor.
I'm available to answer all questions.
Here's this morning's mess of a '88 Nissan pretending to be a '39 GMC.
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1933 IHC Bus. Cpe
1933 IHC B-3 f
1935 C-1 IHC pickup
2 x 1936 IHC C-30 Fbs
3 x 1938 IHC D-2 Pickups
1938 IHC D-30 fb
1941 IHC K-1
2 x 1947 IHC KB-1 Pickups
2x 1953 IHC R pickups

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Post Sat Apr 12, 2014 3:33 pm

Re: Modern Frame swap

Here's a longer view...
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1933 IHC Bus. Cpe
1933 IHC B-3 f
1935 C-1 IHC pickup
2 x 1936 IHC C-30 Fbs
3 x 1938 IHC D-2 Pickups
1938 IHC D-30 fb
1941 IHC K-1
2 x 1947 IHC KB-1 Pickups
2x 1953 IHC R pickups

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Post Sat Apr 19, 2014 12:35 am

Re: Modern Frame swap

Man, that is the best looking Nissan I've seen! Do you usually run the engine that comes with the frame? I am wanting to run a 4 speed in mine, do you use the old pedals with their frame mount or do you convert and use the newer top mount style pedals? I would also like to keep my steering wheel and column, do you run the originals or do you upgrade to the more modern version?

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Post Sat Apr 19, 2014 12:52 pm

Re: Modern Frame swap

I use as much of the Japanese donor as I can.
This includes, steering column, pedal assy's, etc.
I cut the firewall out of the donor truck and if the planets align I install inside the original firewall.
This then allows me to mount pedals, column, etc.
I try to find an automatic version (and yes I use the wonderful Japanese 4 cyls) because the hydraulic clutch master is in a spot of the donor firewall that won't fit into the IHC/ whatever/ old truck firewall
(Japanese = short wide and od stuff is tall skinny)
1933 IHC Bus. Cpe
1933 IHC B-3 f
1935 C-1 IHC pickup
2 x 1936 IHC C-30 Fbs
3 x 1938 IHC D-2 Pickups
1938 IHC D-30 fb
1941 IHC K-1
2 x 1947 IHC KB-1 Pickups
2x 1953 IHC R pickups

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Post Sat Apr 19, 2014 12:54 pm

Re: Modern Frame swap

Today's mess...'39 GMC on 1988 Nissan Hardbody...
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image.jpg
1933 IHC Bus. Cpe
1933 IHC B-3 f
1935 C-1 IHC pickup
2 x 1936 IHC C-30 Fbs
3 x 1938 IHC D-2 Pickups
1938 IHC D-30 fb
1941 IHC K-1
2 x 1947 IHC KB-1 Pickups
2x 1953 IHC R pickups

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