Golden Jubilee
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Joined: Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:28 pm
Location: Lyman, IA
A simple coversion....
I purchased a running "core" engine for one of my cabovers. I came from a late 70's IHC 4300 and is going in an early 80's 9670. Only a few years difference but I am going to tell the story of just one small area to be converted.
The engine came with brackets for the A/C compressor. It was originally fitted with a York 2 cyl recip, which I find to be troublesome. It vibrates bad and breaks mounting bolts and is impossible to keep the belt tight on. The early 9670's were fitted with the Delco A-6 (one of the best compressors made in my opinion, they were used in all high end car (Jag's, Rolls Royce etc)) Gm stopped making them in the 80s and later 9670's went back to the York.
SO, this is the saga of what has to be changed for such a little thing as an A/C compressor change. Keep in mind, that the engine block has not changed in decades, any small or Big cam will have similar bolt holes available for the swap. So should be "bolt on" conversion
The very nice purpose built brackets are still available new from IHC so were ordered. They aren't supplied with the needed bushings, so off to the hardware store for 2 sizes of bushing stock. The drive pulley diameter on the engines vary (late 70's used a 7" drive early 80's used either an 8 or 9" drive) so the A-6 had to have the smaller pulley on the clutch, the 80's used a 5 3/4" clutch, but the 70's needed a 5" clutch to keep the compressor speed near as possible to the original. The pulleys themselves could be interchanged between the engines, but the later engine uses a two piece acc drive pulley where as the earlier is a one piece, to change you have to pull both parts. Furthermore, changing pulleys would changed the fan drive ratio, so I kept the orignal, and changed the clutch pulley on the A/C instead.
The Air compressor for air brakes is directly behind the acc drive so sit behind the A/C compressor, the 70's engine and later 80's used a two cyl Bendix compressor, where as the early 80's used the single cyl Holset compressor. How the water line to the compressor head is different on each compressor, as is how close the compressor is to the A/C compressor. This ment all water connection had to be re-routed and in one case hose needed to be replace with hard tubing to gain clearance.
The OEM manifold for the A/C compressor is still available so that was ordered. The belt to drive the compressor is now not stock for either application and was measured and purchased by size. Several of the mounting bolts are odd length and had to be cut down from longer bolts.
The belt tensioning "strap" will be made by me in my shop, although the original is likely available from IHC, the cost isn't worth it.
It has taken a lot of time and fab work, but when I am done, it will function like the original and with very few "custom parts" so that things will interchange between my two cabovers.
They point of this long story is: this is a "bolt on" conversion, with factory parts and it still took time and patients to get it right. There is no such thing as "I guess I'll throw a different axle under it" the devil is in the details and the details make or break a job. It can be done, but how well its done is directly related to the time put in. Those that put bodies on other frames have a TON of work to do it well, if they put in the time, they get a result that is worth the effort, but never under estimate the time involved, if you haven't done a ton of them, make your best guess, and double it!
I am still surprised how much time it took to replace one A/C compressor with another, even when most of the parts for either were at hand.