Spin-on oil filter conversion

Hi,

I finally took possession of my Loadstar this past weekend. And these are the first of many questions.

What do I need to convert my oil filter from the canister type to a Scout type of spin-on filter that points downward?
Attached in the pdf is a picture of the type of oil filter I presently have. Any advantage to a canister type filter, or is that old filtration technology?

Also, are all oil dip sticks the same for the 266, 304, 345, and 392's? The above-tube part of mine is broken off.

Thank you.

Steve

http://www.ihpartsamerica.com/forums/at ... ines-3.pdf

All you need to do is to buy a spin-on filter base, unbolt your old base (4 bolts) and bolt the new one on...Be sure to use a new gasket.
MW

All you need to do is to buy a spin-on filter base, unbolt your old base (4 bolts) and bolt the new one on...Be sure to use a new gasket.
MW

If it were only that easy...

It is easily doable,problem is locating the base. For what ever reason they are hard to find.

Go back over a year Steve and the answer to your question has been answered...
http://www.oldihc.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=1508

I did a new search for 918267R3 and this is the only one that came up;
http://www.maximinc.com/part-214823-base-918267r3

That's Canadian $ but still not a bad price,some of the other 2 pn's below are listed at more $ (must be made of gold plated latinum).

The only other result is a link to the old thread,that's it! So that tells just how hard it is to find.

The stud for the "2 qt" filter seems readily available;
http://www.machinerytrader.com/list/Par ... m=436922C1

The gasket is out there and for a wide range of prices (I think some sellers are DEranged!).
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=86 ... et&start=0

Best price I saw;
https://www.superscoutspecialists.com/s ... elall.aspx

You could try and make one but I wouldn't,that arch shaped section in the center is THIN and even new out of the bag (10 count) it wasn't uncommon for one to be broken. It's made of some type of paper about 1/16" thick. I don't advise sillycone either,all it takes is a tiny piece to break off and plug something up,not worth the risk IMO.

I rechecked 919782R91 Filter w/base and only got 2 hits that were for element reference and the link to the old thread,I guess somebody bought the only one listed18 months ago.

The only other option is to look for a used one,maybe thru the Light Line vendors or another forum.

Or just stay with the original replaceable element type oil filter. Seems to be no problem buying new elements from various suppliers at a reasonable price.

Or just stay with the original replaceable element type oil filter. Seems to be no problem buying new elements from various suppliers at a reasonable price.

Yep, the local NAPA stocks them, and the local Advanced Auto can get them in less than 2 days. Plus my canister has a nifty drain bolt in the bottom to get all the oil out of the filter which makes it much cleaner to change than a spin-on.

All you need to do is to buy a spin-on filter base, unbolt your old base (4 bolts) and bolt the new one on...Be sure to use a new gasket.
MW

If it were only that easy...

It is easily doable,problem is locating the base. For what ever reason they are hard to find.

Go back over a year Steve and the answer to your question has been answered...
http://www.oldihc.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=1508

I don't know how I missed that, but I did. Thanks.

I did a new search for 918267R3 and this is the only one that came up;
http://www.maximinc.com/part-214823-base-918267r3

That's Canadian $ but still not a bad price,some of the other 2 pn's below are listed at more $ (must be made of gold plated latinum).

The only other result is a link to the old thread,that's it! So that tells just how hard it is to find.

I tried calling them and it is no longer available. So I'm still looking . . .

The stud for the "2 qt" filter seems readily available;
http://www.machinerytrader.com/list/Par ... m=436922C1

The gasket is out there and for a wide range of prices (I think some sellers are DEranged!).
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=86 ... et&start=0

Best price I saw;
https://www.superscoutspecialists.com/s ... elall.aspx

You could try and make one but I wouldn't,that arch shaped section in the center is THIN and even new out of the bag (10 count) it wasn't uncommon for one to be broken. It's made of some type of paper about 1/16" thick. I don't advise sillycone either,all it takes is a tiny piece to break off and plug something up,not worth the risk IMO.

I rechecked 919782R91 Filter w/base and only got 2 hits that were for element reference and the link to the old thread,I guess somebody bought the only one listed18 months ago.

The only other option is to look for a used one,maybe thru the Light Line vendors or another forum.

I'll make a few more calls and see if I can find anything. At least now I know what I'm looking for. . . I think. . .
One place I called asked if I needed one with 3 bolt holes or four. I didn't know what to tell him. My engine is coated with a layer of oily dirt about two inches thick so I could not tell by looking. But then he said he did not want to take one off any of his engines, so it really didn't matter.

Or just stay with the original replaceable element type oil filter. Seems to be no problem buying new elements from various suppliers at a reasonable price.

Yep, the local NAPA stocks them, and the local Advanced Auto can get them in less than 2 days. Plus my canister has a nifty drain bolt in the bottom to get all the oil out of the filter which makes it much cleaner to change than a spin-on.

I must admit, I've never changed a canister oil filter before. I was just going by what others have told me about how messy it is to change a canister oil filter compared to a spin-on. The only advantage I know for sure is there are a lot of choices when it comes to spin-on oil filters as opposed to canister filters. I may change it once just for the experience, but I'm sure after that I will want spin-ons.
Thank you everyone for your replies and comments.

Steve

The part that does the filtering is the same in spin-ons and canister filters, so no difference in the filtering of the oil.
Personally, I prefer canister filters as the elements are easy to dispose of. In my area, spin-on filters are not supposed to put in the trash. They must be crushed and all oil recovered before disposal. Yes, I know most bury them in the trash with the rest of the household trash, but your not supposed too.
canister elements can be burned (as can waste oil) as a legal way of disposal where I live.

The part that does the filtering is the same in spin-ons and canister filters, so no difference in the filtering of the oil.
Personally, I prefer canister filters as the elements are easy to dispose of. In my area, spin-on filters are not supposed to put in the trash. They must be crushed and all oil recovered before disposal. Yes, I know most bury them in the trash with the rest of the household trash, but your not supposed too.
canister elements can be burned (as can waste oil) as a legal way of disposal where I live.

Used oil and filters are some of the few things we can re-cycle here. The municipality has a big tank in town to dump the oil and barrels to hold the used filters. I take a load in there most years.
I've had good luck with Napa, Baldwin, Fleetguard, Fram oil filters in the past for all my IH trucks. The old BD six cylinders take the same filter as the 304 in the Loadstar.

hi,
Just to conclude this thread, I found a filter adapter reasonably priced at http://www.ihpartsamerica.com . It was not on their web site, but when I called they had one in stock.

For anyone later reading this thread, here's a picture of the adapter we were talking about:



I did not call any of the other Light Line dealers so there might still be a few floating around available for other people too.

Fortunately disposal of used oil and oil filters has never been a problem for me in Southern Calif as all major auto parts stores collects this back.

Thank you for your help, it's sincerely appreciated.
Lots more basic Loadstar questions coming up as I become more familiar with my new toy.

Steve

Nice you found one,it looks to be the angled one used in the LL/Scouts? If so the correct filter is LF551A in Fleetguard.

I musta forgot about the dipstick question(?) No,not all SV8's used the same one,there are a few depending on the oil pan used. The PN should be stamped on yours. If not they're found under crankcase and related parts in the manuals.
Since yours is a 4x4 it's best to check the book and be sure if it's not stamped.
In the last Lstar book (MT-132) the stick is the same but the pan is different for 4WD.
151728R21 Gauge,oil level assy.
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=15 ... ge&start=0

Can't even begin to guess how many we sold of that one.