D-2 Chev 6 & S-Pickup


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Post Tue Dec 18, 2018 1:57 pm

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cornbinder89 wrote:I could be wrong, but I didn't think GMC ever had a 235, I thought theirs were all bigger displacement.


You're right, I had forgotten that GMC's had different displacements.

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Post Tue Dec 18, 2018 3:16 pm

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later 235s were insert bearing, I don't know what to look for to tell the difference,

finding a HD213 to put back in there shouldn't be too hard, or a GRD214,

every Tom's dick that's hairy seems to be pulling them out of their trucks,
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Post Wed Dec 19, 2018 2:15 pm

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bedrockjon wrote:later 235s were insert bearing, I don't know what to look for to tell the difference,


According to the Wikipedia article that nikki posted, pressure oiled Chebbies started with the '53 'Vette and '54 for others. The block casting date should get a person close. Or pull the pan.

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Post Wed Dec 19, 2018 2:44 pm

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I've seen it elsewhere that powerglide equipped engines had insert bearing, which tends to indicate they had different cranks as well. I know that Chry did that as well, had different cranks in auto trans cars. One would think it would pay to drill the crank for a pilot bearing regardless, but some were not.
Regardless, the 235 was long in the tooth when it was finely sold off to Toyota, for the Landcruiser.
All in all I wouldn't swap in a 235 in place of most other engines, just too primitive design.
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truck went for 10 grand two hunnert, Chebbie and all,
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Post Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:18 pm

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cornbinder89 wrote: Regardless, the 235 was long in the tooth when it was finely sold off to Toyota, for the Landcruiser.



I had the 235 (236.7?) in my 1972 FJ-40 LandCruiser, really responded well to a header installation- NOT! What did I know, I was 17?

I had always heard the motor was copied from trucks abandoned after the end of WWII, thus were exact replicas of the GM motor, but that may have just been some biased slur.

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Post Thu Dec 20, 2018 8:18 am

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cornbinder89 wrote:I could be wrong, but I didn't think GMC ever had a 235, I thought theirs were all bigger displacement.


My recollection as well.
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Post Thu Dec 20, 2018 8:31 am

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cornbinder89 wrote: Regardless, the 235 was long in the tooth when it was finely sold off to Toyota, for the Landcruiser.



I had the 235 (236.7?) in my 1972 FJ-40 LandCruiser, really responded well to a header installation- NOT! What did I know, I was 17?

I had always heard the motor was copied from trucks abandoned after the end of WWII, thus were exact replicas of the GM motor, but that may have just been some biased slur.

GM (Chevy) had a relationship with both Izuzu and Toyota, I believe they sold them the design. Remember the Chevy Luv? Not uncommen as Chry had a deal with Mitisubishi and Ford, Mazda.
The only Un autorized coping I know of was in the USSR Zil, which is a reverse engineered K series IHC.

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Post Thu Dec 20, 2018 8:45 am

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I shouldn't be sticking up for Chevrolet on an IHC site but the 235 was a very good motor. I have rebuilt and used several. The 216 was the babbit bearing motor and the 235 was the split bearing version. The first Corvette motor was the Blue Flame 235 six with dual carburetors. When I was a kid my older cousin raced one at the local drag strip and did well with it.These motor can be hot rodded! Another version of the 235 was the 261 which went into school buses and big trucks. I pulled the tired 216 out of my 1945 Chevrolet G506 Army truck and replaced it with a 261 and it moved that behemoth of a truck around quite well! While the 235 was anvil reliable when Toyota got a hold of it they screwed it up. They were well known for shredding their rings and valves . My 78 Cruiser had to have both done in under 10,000 miles under warranty. I sold it soon after and bought a used 61 GMC 4x4 with a 305 V6, one of Jimmy's better motors too, it served me well for years.

I love my Binder and want to keep the motor original as I can so no Chevy motors in it but if push came to shove I'd look for a Ford 300 cu. in. six to put in it, but that's a whole other story! :mrgreen:
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Post Thu Dec 20, 2018 9:31 am

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Not all 235's had insert bearings, True, the later ones did, and any with powerglide did, but many stick cars and trucks built earlier had babbit. I don't remember when the cut-off for insert bearing was, but it was mid to late 50's. The Vette and powerglide engine got them 1st.
The Tall deck truck engines were a different story altogether. They had insert bearing IIRC.
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