Original 4-spd tranny in a '73 1210 pickup?


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Post Fri Sep 25, 2020 8:17 pm

Original 4-spd tranny in a '73 1210 pickup?

Anybody know what came from the factory in a '73 1210? I am considering buying a 4-spd out of one but the seller doesn't seem to know much and his current photos are almost illegible. Thanks for any info.

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Post Fri Sep 25, 2020 8:45 pm

Re: Original 4-spd tranny in a '73 1210 pickup?

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Post Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:23 pm

Re: Original 4-spd tranny in a '73 1210 pickup?

Thanks, Nikki. I didn't communicate precisely enough -- I am wondering which Borg Warner 4-spd was in it, T18, T19 or T98? I haven't found a detailed spec sheet for the 1210 online like there are for the A and B series that I am familiar with.
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Post Sat Sep 26, 2020 9:52 am

Re: Original 4-spd tranny in a '73 1210 pickup?

I just talked to scout supply, he knows 70s stuff pickup travelall etc, he has an IH yard he said T-19 and T-18. You can download the MT-124 from this site, it's to bad they don't list the trans numbers in the index pages like the old manuals
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Post Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:07 pm

Re: Original 4-spd tranny in a '73 1210 pickup?

I think, but double-check, that the T-18 and T-98 shift into reverse to the right and up, toward 3rd, while the T-19 shifts into reverse to the right and down, by 4th. Might help.
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Post Sat Sep 26, 2020 2:52 pm

Re: Original 4-spd tranny in a '73 1210 pickup?

A little more searching:

From Novak Adapters
For its first several years in production, the T18 used the same case and top cover as its predecessor, the T98. As such, it may be required to pop the top cover and verify by internal features. Top cover castings that say T98 may actually well be a T18, since they used the same castings. There are two different versions of shift control housings. The 1966-1978 versions hung two cast iron shift forks into the case, with the reverse fork itself pivoting on the side of the case. These earlier T18’s have reverse gear over to the right and up by third gear. In 1979, the reverse shifter fork was moved from the side of the case into the top cover instead and all three forks were changed and made with die-cast aluminum. This later T18 has reverse gear shift pattern over to the right and down by fourth gear. The IH T18 was available only in three versions: the T18 featured the same gear ratios as the wide-ratio Ford & Jeep T18's; the T18A close-ratio version featured 4.02, 2.41, 1.41, 1.0 ratios; the T18C close-ratio version featured 4.02, 2.41, 1.52, 1.0 ratios. IH T18's we've seen in our collection locate their PTO port on the driver's side, and according to IH literature, could have dual PTO ports.

The T19 transmissions are equipped with dual PTO ports. An individual may find the cast numbers of 13-09-065-911 or 13-09-065-905 in Ford T19's. The IH Scout T19 was available from 1975 to 1980 with close and wide ratio options. Individuals may encounter a casting number 13-09-065-905.

And the T-19 is to the right and down, by 4th.

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Post Sat Sep 26, 2020 10:03 pm

Re: Original 4-spd tranny in a '73 1210 pickup?

Thanks, everyone! Great tips and specs. Y'all are the best. This tranny may be a T18, but not a close-ratio one. It should fit my needs well if I get it.
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Post Sat Oct 03, 2020 9:07 am

Re: Original 4-spd tranny in a '73 1210 pickup?

These are some info pics of a 70s 2WD scout-- T-19A installed in my old truck.
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TRANSMISSIONS SCOUT STUFF 001.jpg
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T-19A 3.JPG

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Post Tue Oct 06, 2020 5:47 pm

Re: Original 4-spd tranny in a '73 1210 pickup?

Have the original line setting ticket for my '74 200 4x4. Build date of Feb 22/74. Has t-427 with the 392.- 7700gvw. Just in case the 1210 was late production. Granny low, reverse to the right and down.

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